Season 1 Finale-It's a Wrap!!

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Season Finale-It's a Wrap!!

[00:00:00] Intro

[00:00:00] Kelly: Welcome to the laugh life podcast, a lifestyle podcast based on living alcohol free and a booze-soaked world. My name is Kelly Evans and together with my friends, Tracey, Djordjevic, Mike Sutton and Lindsay Harik. We share uncensored. Unscripted real conversations about what our lives have been like since we ditched alcohol and how we got here by sharing our individual stories.

[00:00:26] Kelly: We'll show you that there isn't just one way to do this, no matter where you are on your journey from sober, curious to years in recovery and everyone in between, you are welcome here, no judgment and a ton of support.

[00:00:42] Tracey: Hello, everyone. Everyone and welcome to the season finale of the laugh life podcast tonight. Tonight, will be our last episode. For season one. We are discussing. Random topics and some of our favorite highlights. From the season Thank you to all our listeners for. for your support and we hope. hope you enjoy this one

[00:00:59] Lindsey: We live in a world where there's always something better. So well, never satisfied. 

[00:01:04] Mike: Yeah. That's the problem is that we've been programmed through this convenience society over the last 20 years that I don't wanna miss the party, look at our lives over the course of 20 years, right?

[00:01:16] Lindsey: Yes. 

[00:01:16] Mike: Alcohol's connected to a lot of these decisions and, and things that we're talking about. Now we have to go through weeds without something that numbs us, I think we all would agree that we've numbed ourselves in certain situations and said, 

[00:01:29] Lindsey: of course, 

[00:01:30] Mike: oh wow, didn't work. I'm gonna go to the bar and get drunk or I'm gonna go out and right. 

[00:01:33] Kelly: Mm-hmm 

[00:01:34] Lindsey: I think that's why they tell you in sobriety. When you're first trying to get sober change your bad habits, like don't date because when you. Get that rejection or that heartbreak or somebody sleeps with you and then you don't hear from them, what would I do in that situation? Well, I'm gonna drink wine because I'm hurt. Mm-hmm so 

[00:01:54] Kelly: yeah, I think in AA they say don't sleep within or don't start a relationship for a year. 

[00:01:59] Tracey: Yeah, 

[00:01:59] Lindsey: you're right. 

[00:02:00] Mike: Yeah. That's fair. 

[00:02:01] Kelly: And yeah, 

[00:02:02] Tracey: but I think that's not necessarily bad advice, period, after getting out of a relationship or anything kind of emotionally traumatic. Quitting drinking is just another huge life altering change. It's no different than coming out of say a 20-year relationship. You shouldn't just jump right into another relationship. You have to heal the wounds. And try to figure out and process what happened in that relationship over 20 years, that broke it down. And what mistakes did you make? What mistakes you not wanna make going forward? What things did you not have or lacked that you want to make sure you have and evaluate all those things, instead of, 

[00:02:46] Mike: I think it's a matter of how the relationship ended first and foremost, right? That's a factor for sure.

[00:02:51] Lindsey: What do you mean? 

[00:02:51] Mike: Well, you know what, I'll use my own example. When my marriage ended, there was a rejection feeling on my end I was just blindsided and it was about four weeks after everything had it, I remember I went for new year's. To New York with my buddies. And I was like, I don't know if I could do this. I just felt shitty and horrible, and you just crave attention. Like you just crave attention. 

[00:03:17] Kelly: I can relate to that. 

[00:03:18] Mike: And then you just take as pathetic as it sounds, what you take, what you get. And, but yet it's like, oh my God, okay. Somebody does see me in that light. All that feeling of rejection goes away, but temporarily until it happens again. And then again, it's like back to what Tracey was saying, how do I map through my own demons or my own feelings if I don't even fucking have the capacity to, stay away from the opposite sex.

[00:03:47] Kelly: Right. The episode that we recorded without you, Mike this came up and then we said, or I said, how do you know when you're ready to go back out there? And I've been thinking about this since that episode, how do you know you're ready? And you've gotta be able to practice these things and certain things aren't going to come up for you unless you are in some sort of romantic relationship, and then that's gonna come up and then you're gonna be like, Ooh, I still need to look at that thing.

[00:04:16] Mike: I think, look, I'm a big on the whole things happening for a reason, and mm-hmm, it became more heightened as time has progressed cuz I sit there and reflection and go. That's why that happened now I get it, but I don't get it at the time. I never got it at the time. I always thought, what the fuck is wrong with me? what's wrong with me? I feel like I'm a good person. I'm a good guy. And have I got the adage of nice guys finished last? Well, maybe, but I can be an asshole too. And I have been, so I've thought, I've worn all the hats. I feel, I thought, maybe it's just those experiences are making me a better person for the ultimate. The ultimate connection at some point in time could be even another year from now. It could be two months from now could be two years from now. I don't know. But these last two years have definitely been a part of. Learning for sure. Immense things about myself, things that I hadn't dealt with that I thought I had dealt with.

[00:05:08] Lindsey: Yes. 

[00:05:09] Mike: And then, like you said, 

[00:05:11] Kelly: yeah. 

[00:05:11] Mike: You know, These little, yeah, yeah. 

[00:05:12] Tracey: I think you need time to be with yourself. Right. 

[00:05:16] Mike: Well, I've done a hell of lot of work with that, so, yeah. 

[00:05:20] Tracey: Well, I know, I know you have at this point, Mike, but I just mean initially up front. I think that that's sure your first goal should probably be to work on being on your own.

[00:05:31] Mike: Yeah. 

[00:05:31] Tracey: I think being the best version of yourself on your own is the best way to be the best version of yourself for someone else. 

[00:05:39] Mike: Yeah, 

[00:05:39] Lindsey: self worth thing. 

[00:05:41] Mike: Yeah. 

[00:05:41] Lindsey: I know for me, when I used to go out to the bars in my early twenties, I always felt like, oh, like all the guys are paying attention to my other friends. What, why? Okay, their boobs are hanging out or whatever. And I'm like, oh, but it's that rejection. And then wanting the opposite sex to be attracted to you is almost a way that I use to validate my self worth. I put it on somebody else. 

[00:06:07] Mike: Yes. 

[00:06:07] Lindsey: To show me that I was worthy. Right. And I didn't believe that I was. Right. So, when you are not in a relationship, which is what I'm working on now, it's hard as hell to realize and know and discover your self worth you can't actually, I don't think you can have a good relationship without that relationship with yourself. It sounds so cliche. It's like, 

[00:06:31] Kelly: it's so true though. 

[00:06:32] Lindsey: It's what everybody tells you and that's why they say, when you get out of one relationship, just don't go to the next thing. That's paying attention to you, which is what we often do. 

[00:06:40] Kelly: Mm-hmm but you don't have to be perfect. You don't have to be completely fully healed cuz I don't think we ever are. 

[00:06:46] Lindsey: I don't think we ever are. 

[00:06:48] Kelly: Yeah. And I think, I don't know. I'm not the person to give any kind of relationship advice at this point, but I feel like a healthy relationship would be a safe space for each of you to work on yourselves like individually, and then also, be able to come together and work on the relationship. But, 

[00:07:08] Lindsey: and talk about that with your partner too. I'm not perfect. These are the things that I struggle with or be open to your partner, pointing out like, hey, I noticed you react like this when this happens. Let's maybe dive deeper. Let's talk about it. If you can be that vulnerable and safe with somebody, and they're not trying to change you, but they're supporting you and they love you anyways. And they wanna see you thrive. That's amazing. 

[00:07:34] Tracey: I do believe though; you attract the energy you're putting out though. So that's the thing. When you were thinking that all those people were paying more attention to your friends and everything, Lindsay, that's the energy you were putting out. If you had the confidence and you were putting out the energy, like you were attracting attention, then you probably would, you weren't giving that energy. So, it was almost like you were rejecting it. So, 

[00:08:00] Lindsey: and I think also not giving a shit about it too. Like, you know, giving it, 

[00:08:05] Kelly: not giving a shit about what, 

[00:08:07] Lindsey: Other people paying attention to you or other people wanting to be in a relationship with you. It's almost like what Tracey's saying. If you're focusing on that, it's almost like you're repelling it.

[00:08:17] Kelly: Well, I realized not that long ago that, when I started dating, I had this chip on my shoulder. Like I don't need anybody. I'm an independent person. I became super, super independent, created this beautiful life that I do love, and I still love but I had. A lot of thoughts around maybe I just wanna be single, like maybe having somebody to date would be good, but I wasn't convinced I wanted another partner to partner up. So, I was out there. I was putting myself out there with this kind of like, eh, I don't know if I want the whole thing again, like marriage and all of that stuff. So, what kind of people am I gonna attract? 

[00:08:55] Lindsey: I don't know if I want this. 

[00:08:57] Kelly: Exactly, exactly. So, I wasn't attracting people that would commit to anything cuz I wasn't committal. So, it's so interesting. 

[00:09:06] Lindsey: So, you're almost like emotionally unavailable looking for an emotionally available person or something, right? Yeah. And it's not working. 

[00:09:13] Kelly: No, didn't go very well, 

[00:09:15] Tracey: but it goes back to your self worth too. If you are not feeling worthy, you're not gonna attract people that are worthy of you.

[00:09:24] Kelly: Mm-hmm. 

[00:09:24] Tracey: Right. 

[00:09:25] Mike: Well, you gotta use your instincts too, and that's what you, you build in the time of getting to know yourself. I firmly believe that Spidey these senses just they heighten all. 

[00:09:36] Lindsey: And what does drinking do? It lessens, lowers those lessen all. So, you're not, you're not using those Spidey senses and your intuition. You're stuffing it down with booze. 

[00:09:45] Kelly: So yeah. Yep. 

[00:09:47] Lindsey: It's a good point. Mike, 

[00:09:48] Mike: you say booze or boobs?

[00:09:50] Lindsey: I said booze, you know, you could, I like stuff it up that little.

[00:09:56] Mike: I like to throw my barbs at you when I, there something I wanna add. And I think it's all in relation, but it's all about How can you expect somebody else to make you happy when you are not happy with yourself? And I think totally definitely is, it's numeral it's number one. It looks for me. I've I definitely have had that at various points in time that my mind was well, if I date somebody, I'll be good. I'll be in a good spot. I'll like my work. And I'll like, 

[00:10:22] Lindsey: I'll be happier. 

[00:10:23] Mike: You got it. And it's bullshit. It is really bullshit. Mm-hmm, it's, it's a distraction from, getting to know yourself better.

[00:10:30] Mike: Yes. Look, I think with the exception, Tracey, Tracey's in a relationship with the three of us would say, could I be, and I won't speak for you, but I'll speak. And you say, yeah, I agree or whatnot, but I know that I'd say a relationship right now would compliment who we are as individuals. Yes. And that's what we're seeking as, single individuals. And the longer this goes on, it's just you probably want to get off that roller coaster. I get it, but at a certain point in time, it's like, are we catching the red flags with our intuition is saying, oh, that's a red flag. 

[00:11:00] Lindsey: Isn't this a carnival?

[00:11:03] Kelly: What's a red flag. No, I'm just kidding. 

[00:11:07] Lindsey aren't we at a circus 

[00:11:09] Kelly: guys. Help me. 

[00:11:12] Mike: is that why you wear red Kelly? Cause you don't wear 

[00:11:15] Kelly: I'm wearing red in honor. Oh, 

[00:11:18] Lindsey: oh my god. Mike is sitting in what? Looks like a big red veer chair.

[00:11:22] Mike: Mine's Amber. So, I can go through it, or I can stop. So, I know at least all that she's like, yeah. 

[00:11:29] Lindsey: That's so, yeah. Oh man. 

[00:11:31] Lindsey: One of my biggest, oh God, biggest memories of our podcasting are Eleanor with the barf in her hair. I just keep, I, I always think about that. 

[00:11:40] Kelly: I love how she told it to you. She's like, oh. And I thought my hair looked good.

[00:11:44] Lindsey: Super good. And it was full of barf. I was like, whoa. Yeah, girl. 

[00:11:48] Mike: Well, that's good. So, you're, that's a good thing to start talking about some of the highlights. Yeah. That's what 

[00:11:53] Kelly: I was saying. 

[00:11:55] Tracey: Let's talk about all our guests. 

[00:11:56] Lindsey: Yeah. Like I don't I've Alzheimer's so I'm like, I don't know if I can remember all of them, 

[00:12:02] Kelly: but I don't know either, 

[00:12:02] Lindsey: but I remember Ellie

[00:12:03] Tracey: I'll do it. You chime in. 

[00:12:06] Kelly: Was Ellie our first guest? 

[00:12:07] Tracey: No, our first guest was Kelly, 

[00:12:09] Lindsey: Kelly, Kelly, 

[00:12:10] Kelly: Kelly, 

[00:12:11] Tracey: Brave Kelly, who came on as our first guest. 

[00:12:13] Kelly: Kelly was guest super inspiring 

[00:12:16] Tracey: entrepreneur. Mom, 

[00:12:18] Lindsey: who didn't wanna be the drunk mom? 

[00:12:20] Tracey: Yes. That she would not be the drunk mom, 

[00:12:23] Lindsey: and her dad died. Her dad died of alcoholism basically. Yeah. 

[00:12:27] Kelly: Yes. 

[00:12:28] Tracey: And then there was Eleanor, 

[00:12:30] Lindsey: Ellie. Yeah. Eleanor. Yep. 

[00:12:32] Tracey: And Eleanor, she was born again. 

[00:12:35] Kelly: Yeah. I love that story. How she just happened to go to church with her niece. 

[00:12:39] Lindsey: They got baptized 

[00:12:42] Kelly: that changed everything. 

[00:12:42] Lindsey: And that changed every there's no explanation. Cause she was literally like fighting. fighting every day, not to drink. I had no idea how much she was drinking. It was every day, 

[00:12:54] Kelly: because you know her from church, right

[00:12:56] Lindsey: church. Yeah. And she wrote that book. She gave me the book, didn't know that I was struggling drinking binge drinking wine all the time on like on the weekends and blacking out. She didn't know that. So that's something I was sharing. So, she gave knew, 

[00:13:10] Mike: you didn't even mention it. That is IRO. See that look that's fucking, 

[00:13:15] Tracey: that's the universe. 

[00:13:17] Mike: That's the example right there. 

[00:13:20] Lindsey: Yeah. We went to a conference together. It was called she conference. It was about women being empowered and standing in their faith. And it was about, it was amazing. I was there. I was just like in awe taking it all in. I actually was in tears at one point,

[00:13:34] Mike: been drinking at this time, Lindsay? 

[00:13:36] Lindsey: Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yes. And the next day she came, I sat with her niece, Val. So, Val and I would sit together in church sometimes. And I didn't know Ellie, but Ellie was there too.

[00:13:47] Lindsey: And Val introduced me. And then the next day, Ellie brought me a copy of her book and was like, here. I was like, what? She's like, yeah. I don't usually give this out. She said on the podcast. I don't know why I felt like I needed to give that to you. 

[00:14:00] Kelly: Oh, that's amazing. Wonder, I love that. 

[00:14:03] Lindsey: Yeah. 

[00:14:03] Tracey: That's crazy universe. The universe had your back that day. 

[00:14:07] Lindsey: Yeah. 

[00:14:07] Mike: So, did that start, that started your kind of questioning of your own?

[00:14:11] Lindsey: Well, I was reading her book and I was like, holy shit. Like, she gets really candid in there, about, she was in treatment programs. She had to go to rehab. Like she, you read it right.

[00:14:22] Mike: You read it right away. Lindsay, 

[00:14:22] Lindsey: I read it in one sitting. Wow. Yeah. It it's pretty crazy. 

[00:14:27] Mike: Wow. Well that means you were, you were enamoured, you know, 

[00:14:31] Lindsey: I still drank though after that. 

[00:14:34] Mike: Oh, but that's what the happens. I mean like shit. Yeah. 

[00:14:36] Kelly: It was just plants, a seed, a seed, 

[00:14:40] Mike: like, you know how a light has a, like the dial lights that has the dimness mm-hmm yours was like on a very low dim and she helped start it. That's the analogy that I'd use. 

[00:14:48] Lindsey: Yeah. It's a really great book and it's a really. Easy read. So, I just plowed through it. I was like, holy cow. Wow. I can't believe this. And she's like 20 something years sober now. 

[00:15:01] Tracey: Yeah. Yeah. And then we had Nicole, my, oh my acquaintance from high school and is a warrior, Nicole.

[00:15:09] Kelly: She totally through a lot. 

[00:15:11] Tracey: Her story shocked me. 

[00:15:13] Kelly: Oh, me too. Just the fact that she went to the same school as us and that showing up at school drunk in grade seven. I think it was like that shocked me. 

[00:15:24] Tracey: So young. She started drinking in general. Just like, wow. 

[00:15:29] Lindsey: And just how women are blamed when they are drunk and drinking, when they are violated, that really pisses me off mm-hmm, you know, mm-hmm because she had told her a story about being at a party. Right. And 

[00:15:42] Tracey: yeah, mm-hmm yeah. 

[00:15:44] Lindsey: Being assaulted, basically 

[00:15:46] Tracey: getting taken. 

[00:15:48] Lindsey: Take an advantage of, and then it's like, then as a woman, you feel like, well, who am I gonna tell? They're gonna be like, well, you were drinking. You were wasted. why, why do we blame people for being intoxicated? I don't know. I don't get it. Why are we blaming people for that? 

[00:16:02] Tracey: But this happens all the time. I know all the time, like think of all the college and university girls that this happens to, there's been, 

[00:16:11] Mike: hold on, it happens more to women than, but it does happen to men too. 

[00:16:15] Lindsey: It does. You're right. It happens to men. Absolutely. Absolutely. It does happen to men 

[00:16:19] Kelly: and, 

[00:16:20] Mike: but it does happen more to women. I would say that. 

[00:16:22] Kelly: Yeah. 

[00:16:22] Lindsey: Her statement, how she said it was near the end of the podcast. And she said something like, if this is my only message, I want other girls to hear this so that they don't have to go through that violation that I went through or something. It was something along those lines. Yeah. 

[00:16:40] Tracey: Yeah. It's amazing.

[00:16:42] Tracey: And then we had Chrissy, our big TikTok sensation. 

[00:16:46] Kelly: That was great. That was such a fun episode to record she's really good. 

[00:16:51] Tracey: She was very easy to listen to, and you can tell she is done a lot of processing of her drinking and her relationship with alcohol. And she communicates that very well.

[00:17:02] Kelly: Mm-hmm 

[00:17:03] Lindsey: her account is great. I remember one of the first things I saw on her account, and it sticks with me. This is like, know, when you read a saying or quote and you just never forget it. It was sobriety. Isn't something that you have to go through. It's a radical act of self love. 

[00:17:19] Kelly: Yeah. 

[00:17:19] Lindsey: And I will never forget that. 

[00:17:21] Kelly: Mm-hmm. 

[00:17:22] Tracey: no, her content is very good. She's been doing a very good job and it's no wonder that the sober community on there loves her. 

[00:17:30] Kelly: Yeah. 

[00:17:32] Tracey: Yeah. 

[00:17:32] Tracey: And then more recently we have had some really, really exciting guests too. Thomas and Dan that's right from nature.

[00:17:44] Kelly: Yeah. 

[00:17:45] Tracey: It just blows my mind actually, Thomas was an educational episode about C, B, D, I'm still learning, but yeah. he definitely converted Lindsay and my, I know, yeah, 

[00:17:58] Lindsey: I would hear CBD and I'm like, no, that's drugs. don't I would never do that. That is marijuana, but I wish that yeah, we could try his stuff. 

[00:18:10] Tracey: Mm-hmm 

[00:18:11] Tracey: what wonderful people 

[00:18:12] Kelly: they, yes, definitely. And what they're doing for the recovery community is amazing. Yeah. And my favorite thing that Dan said was that the grass is greener on the other side.

[00:18:25] Lindsey: Remember that? 

[00:18:25] Tracey: Oh dan, our youngest guest. Yeah. He was so good. He was so great. I loved watching that episode back as I was editing because he just had us all lit up. Mm-hmm I think we smiled the most in that episode. Ah, just because I. how wise he was for his young age. Mm-hmm 

[00:18:46] Kelly: he been through a lot of shit, right. He's been through a lot. Yeah. 

[00:18:48] Lindsey: Well, his friend died at 17 mm-hmm mm-hmm from a drug overdose. 

[00:18:53] Tracey: He's definitely had to grow up way before his time. And you could see that, but I think just too, we were all like mama and Baba bears in that episode, like rooting for him, you know? 

[00:19:04] Kelly: Yeah. Yeah. My sister listens to all our episodes and she, just listened to it the other day and she messaged me and said, same thing. Like she loved the episode and just really hopes, wishes him the best. 

[00:19:16] Tracey: Well, maybe we can bring him back in like a year. 

[00:19:19] Kelly: Yeah. Yeah. That would be follow up. Yeah. We gotta do some follow ups with these guests. They're great. 

[00:19:26] Tracey: And then of course, our last guess, Gregg, Gregg, the champ champion. So, I was bugging Gregg the other day when we get in our champ sweatshirts in the mail there, Gregg 

[00:19:38] Lindsey: that's hilarious. I want one. Yeah, Greg, if you're listening, send us champ hoodies. 

[00:19:45] Tracey: No, he's already told me it's not happening because that was a gift from his family or something. Aw. He said he probably has some Startup recovery hats. He can send us. I said, alright, 

[00:19:57] Kelly: it that's cool, 

[00:19:59] Tracey: but no, he was great. Gregg had such an amazing energy. We all, I think really felt that too. 

[00:20:06] Lindsey: Oh, I'm sure. 

[00:20:07] Kelly: Great story also amazing what he's doing for the recovery community and absolutely California. 

[00:20:15] Tracey: Yeah. His story was pretty incredible and yes, everything that he's doing, how he's dedicated himself to helping other people. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. 

[00:20:26] Tracey: This whole community has been so supportive.

[00:20:28] Kelly: Yeah. 

[00:20:28] Tracey: Like really one thing I've found is that it's amazing how supportive this community is 

[00:20:34] Mike: Sheltered. Right. It was very sheltered. It was taboo. 

[00:20:37] Kelly: Mm-hmm yeah, it was a secret 

[00:20:40] Mike: AA is like, we're going to. Not secret, but secret anonymous. Yeah, exactly. thank you. We're going to this location and we're gonna 

[00:20:47] Tracey: underground.

[00:20:50] Mike: Yeah, no, no joke. Right. 

[00:20:50] Kelly: And literally like lots of them are underground. But I just, I really loved how we had such a variety of guests and stories because that was the whole point of this podcast from the beginning was to show that there isn't just one way to do this and exactly. You look at all our guests, it's completely different stories. And some of them had to try over and over again to get some time under their belt and, make the decision to quit for good. It was just so good hearing those stories. 

[00:21:20] Tracey: Yeah. And I think, like we said, even about our individual selves, as well as our guests, that there's gonna be. at least one person that resonates with them or, can relate that you're gonna potentially help or turn the light bulb on, in their head yeah, like Eleanor was for you. Lynn's kind of like that. 

[00:21:40] Lindsey: Oh yeah. 

[00:21:41] Tracey: Beginning light 

[00:21:42] Lindsey: also. Did anybody here ever think that you would have a podcast 

[00:21:48] Kelly: it's like, I was just gonna ask that question. Like, what has surprised you guys the most since we started doing this? 

[00:21:54] Lindsey: Oh, that's a good question. 

[00:21:56] Tracey: So, what I realized is that I'm way more capable of something than I ever gave myself credit for. It's just really taught me that if I put my mind to anything, I can do it. And that, yeah, definitely. I'm way more capable of what I would ever given myself credit for before. 

[00:22:15] Lindsey: I love that and you're doing the editing. So, if anybody doesn't know, Tracey edits all of our episodes and it's a huge job and she kills it like, so thank you, Tracey, for making us sound good and deleting all of my ums and likes and ums and

[00:22:36] Kelly: Oh boy. 

[00:22:38] Tracey: No, I mean, that's the thing, not only did I not think I would have a podcast let alone, literally learning how to do so many elements of it, the editing producing type of thing, and everything I've learned just about that alone has been amazing. Two years ago. if you had to ask me if I quit drinking, my answer wouldn't have been, yes. I, you, you know, to come from that, to now having a podcast and about not drinking and committing to that for my life is a huge turnaround, for sure. 

[00:23:13] Lindsey: That is so crazy. And even vulnerability, I remember after my episode listening to it back, I wanted to puke mm-hmm, and I thought, oh God, I don't know if I wanna say all this stuff and oh, okay.

[00:23:26] Lindsey: Well, it's out there now. Okay. Now people know things, but it's so freeing and when people message you privately and say, holy shit, I didn't know that. Or. Wow. I can relate to that. Or I'm sending this to somebody because I think you might help somebody it's like, what, how is this happening? It's really good. And vulnerability at first seems really scary, but it's, it's really just so freeing. I think that's one of the things that I've learned doing this, it's okay to share. And I don't care. I don't care if people judge or, they're like, why are you talking about that? I don't listen then, you know, I never thought I'd be talking about a lot of stuff.

[00:24:13] Kelly: Say what your mom said. 

[00:24:14] Lindsey: What did my mom say? Oh, oh my god. My mom's like, oh, she fucks. She was really worried. She's like, well, you're not using your real name on there. Are you? And I'm, they're, that's the fucking point. I'm like, that's the fucking point. Mom knows, like, you I think it's really funny, but she was really concerned. It is like, you're putting yourself out there publicly. 

[00:24:38] Kelly: You're using your real listen. When is your real name, Lindsay? Like?

[00:24:42] Lindsey: Yeah. 

[00:24:43] Mike: Do you think that she said that because she fears that she'll be judged by her peers because that's interesting. Her daughter is putting herself out there. 

[00:24:54] Lindsey: My mom. I'll tell you a little bit about her. Like really quick. She is not online. She has no Facebook. She doesn't even know how to turn a computer on so she's like, has a cell phone can barely use it. She's not on Facebook or Instagram or anything like that. So, she doesn't really understand. 

[00:25:11] Mike: What about her friends? Like if her, would her friends find no, 

[00:25:14] Lindsey: no, her friends the same, but she's just really concerned about privacy and right. That's what, I, I don't want anybody to find you and oh my God. But I'm like, no mom, it's okay. That's the point, 

[00:25:27] Tracey: I'm you worried about your safety, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Someone like 

[00:25:33] Lindsey: my mom doesn't even know what a podcast is. She doesn't, she doesn't listen, right. 

[00:25:38] Lindsey: yeah, yeah, 

[00:25:39] Kelly: yeah. 

[00:25:40] Tracey: My mom's been our biggest cheerleader.

[00:25:42] Kelly: Yes, she has Michelle. Thank you. Yeah, 

[00:25:46] Lindsey: that's super sweet. 

[00:25:48] Kelly: Mike, what surprised you? 

[00:25:49] Mike: What surprised me that something could come together so fast and, when I had tea with Tracey, I gotta think it was November trace. Like I think it's November mm-hmm and we hadn't seen each other in about six months. And we were talking about your business idea with your friend there, and then, you know, me and my entrepreneurial side. I'm rah, you can do this. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And then outta nowhere, she goes, I got someone else gotta tell you. I, so what's that I wanna do a podcast. I was like, oh, cool. But I'll go. I was like, I'll call. Okay, cool. And. Would you be interested in being a part of it? I was like what okay. It was kind of like; I'll call your bluff without saying I'm calling your bluff. I said, no, I don't know if it's verbatim, but I said, if you put in the effort to get this going, I'm there for you and I shit, you not, I was like, there's no way he's gonna be able to get this then bang, bang, bang. And I thought, well, fuck. Now I'm in like, I, I'm not letting her down. So, and to come to, 21 episodes and have all these people from all over the, like, literally all over the world, mostly us and Canada, mind you, it's not overwhelming, but it's eye opening, I guess, is really what it is. It's mm-hmm you can impact somebody's life by just. As you've all alluded to, by being transparent. And I think for me, I actually started, I've always been transparent to a certain degree and probably to my own faults and got myself in trouble along the ways. But I just take great pleasure in sharing stories. I've always been a very story like individual, and I never thought that my stories in relation to my alcohol use would have some form of I guess, I dunno if this is the right word, but impact on somebody's else's potential decisions. I mean, I'm not a parent, but it's like, don't touch the hot stove. This is what can happen. I'm telling you; I touched the hot stove fall a hundred thousand times. So. So that's my big thing for sure. 

[00:27:41] Kelly: That's awesome. 

[00:27:42] Mike: for sure, you guys, Tracey leads the leads the way and helps us do all the editing as Lindsay alluded to and you Lindsay and, and Kelly do the other things and look, I'm just the pretty blonde that's in the mix here. 

[00:27:54] Lindsey: thank God. You're pretty Mike. thank God. 

[00:27:59] Mike: Every group's gotta have a pretty blonde, right. 

[00:28:02] Kelly: thanks, Mike. 

[00:28:04] Mike: Thank you for letting me be the pretty blonde. I appreciate 

[00:28:08] Kelly: that. We wouldn't have it any other way. 

[00:28:10] Mike: You're so nice if 

[00:28:11] Lindsey: we wouldn't be here without you, Mike, 

[00:28:14] Mike: probably not true, but I appreciate it.

[00:28:18] Kelly: I was surprised that people didn't listen to our launch episode, cuz I got lots of questions about like, how do you guys know each other? How'd you come together? I'm like, listen to the launch. We'd say all of that in the launch. So surprised that people just skipped right to our stories. But I guess I know that people don't listen to podcasts in order. Right. 

[00:28:36] Lindsey: People want the dirt they wanna get, right? 

[00:28:38] Kelly: Yeah. But it's a good episode. I'm I went back and listened to my episode the other day. And I'm surprised by how far we've come that was the second episode we recorded. So, our conversation has gotten so good the way we interact with each other. It's really, really awesome. Same as Lynn, the vulnerability for me was just really, I was nervous recording my episode, but the morning of same thing, I felt like I was going to be sick. Wow. And still just having it out there is really vulnerable. I mentioned to the girls the other night, like I'll meet somebody, dating or something. They listen to my episode right away and I'm like, oh my God, this person knows everything about me, and I know nothing about them. So that's really interesting and surprising. But yeah, it's all been so, so good and also surprised at how much I need it. I really, sometimes when we get off, I'm like, holy, I feel like I just went to therapy.

[00:29:39] Tracey: Mm-hmm 

[00:29:39] Lindsey: so true. 

[00:29:41] Kelly: Major, major, personal growth through this and learning so much by hearing other people's stories. And just by talking myself just like a therapy session, I love the people that reach out. It's not surprising because you know, I've been sharing my story for a few years on social media. So, the people that reach out is really, I guess, affirming that we are doing the right thing. There are. So many people struggling. I love hearing from people early on when I started sharing my story. So openly, I wanted to follow up with everybody and check on everybody. So, I, kept a list of people in my phone at first, you know,

[00:30:21] Lindsey: like this is like you to track everything.

[00:30:24] Kelly: Oh, I know. But I had to set a boundary around that, realizing that I can't, and now with the podcast, there's so many people, so whoever is listening, I love getting your updates. I'm sure these guys do too but getting messages from people and sharing what your progress is. I mean, some people listen to the podcast for the first time and then they quit for the first time, so there's people that have been with us since the beginning that are on their own journey. And it's just incredible. So, I love getting the messages and updates. It just, it's amazing. Yeah. 

[00:30:56] Lindsey: I wanna add to that really quick. Kel, before I forget when you're saying you love getting the messages from people mm-hmm. So, somebody messaged me, we were chatting back and forth on messenger and she's a healthy relationship with alcohol.

[00:31:11] Lindsey: So, she's not somebody that. Sober, curious, or looking to get sober or anything. But 

[00:31:17] Kelly: that's something that surprised me too, is how many people she listens, listens. Yeah. How many people listen that aren't even struggling with alcohol? They just like the podcast, like 

[00:31:24] Lindsey: they like the podcast, so cool. And she was saying, I get a lot of tips from you guys about self care and personal growth. And I just she's like, it's kind of like a train wreck. I, I wanna know. I wanna know the stories. When you have guests or you have a story, she's like, you guys are all, each of you are all fucking incredible, you know? And she's like, I don't have a problem. She's like, well, I smoke cigarettes, so maybe there, but she's like, I just love your podcast. I love your energy. I love listening to you all. And I love the stories and I love the guests and you guys have a lot of good content and I was like, huh, all right. I was like, thank you. I mean, so much, she's just like, 

[00:32:05] Lindsey: yeah. Yeah. She's like, just keep doing it. 

[00:32:07] Tracey: That's awesome. 

[00:32:08] Kelly: I still feel like that when somebody says, oh, I listen to your podcast. I'm like, really? Thank you. You know, still, oh my God. I feel like that'll never get old. It's so amazing. Yeah. 

[00:32:20] Tracey: Well, it's funny because I was just thinking, as you're saying that Linds I loved when Gregg said that his assistant said we reminded her of a morning show. 

[00:32:32] Lindsey: that's amazing. 

[00:32:33] Tracey: I was like, that is awesome. 

[00:32:36] Lindsey: that's so funny. 

[00:32:38] Tracey: Yeah. Oh, of which let's talk about maybe one of our favorite episodes that we did, the four of us, what was one favorite episodes or topics that we did.

[00:32:49] Mike: I already know what Lindsay and Kelly's is gonna be. It's gonna be, 

[00:32:54] Lindsey: it's gonna be the date we won the dating.

[00:32:57] Lindsey: No, you know what? I really liked our self-care one. 

[00:33:01] Kelly: Yes. 

[00:33:02] Lindsey: I really liked that one. A lot. 

[00:33:04] Kelly: That one was good. 

[00:33:04] Tracey: You know what, when I loved and maybe is kind of underrated because people wouldn't realize, I don't think maybe by the title is the social stigma. One, that one for me, I remember when listening to it and editing it, just being so proud of us that we'd really come a long way. I felt like in that episode, and I just felt like all of us really contributed strongly in that one. you know, 

[00:33:33] Kelly: I'm gonna re-listen to that one 

[00:33:35] Tracey: with like a lot of conviction. And everything that we were pointing out or saying in that episode. Yeah, that was definitely one of my favorites. 

[00:33:42] Kelly: Well, and I think that's probably one of the most important episodes we did too, because I think that's what holds a lot of people back from changing their relationship with alcohol. Is that like, wait, what? It's part of everything. I do everything I socialize, and this is part of it, right? 

[00:33:59] Lindsey: would I do it without alcohol? So, and what are people gonna think? What are people gonna think about me? 

[00:34:04] Kelly: Mm-hmm mm-hmm 

[00:34:05] Tracey: well, that was it. That was one thing that I thought was so amazing about it. I thought this is the perfect episode for someone just starting out or considering quitting, because I think we touched on a lot of things that would be helpful to someone in that situation at the. 

[00:34:21] Kelly: Okay. That's a good one. I'm gonna revisit that and repost it. That's good. 

[00:34:27] Tracey: Yeah. Yeah. Well, we can definitely do that during the off season, right?

[00:34:32] Kelly: Yeah. I don't, if I have a favorite episode, I love the episodes that we record just the four of us. Like I love our guests too, but I love the conversations and what comes out of these conversations and all the laughs that we have together. Of course. There are a couple things that stuck out for me from the very beginning. This might have even been our first, the launch episode, but it stuck with me the whole season long because it's come up in everybody's story. Is that question of why are we in us? Hmm, because everybody talks about why I drink as a social lubricant. I drink to get me out of my shell. I drank to get me out of my, my shell. I was shy. I was this, I was that. Why are we living these lives of staying in our shell? Why can't we just be ourselves?

[00:35:16] Lindsey: We're not turtles. We're humans. 

[00:35:21] Tracey: Good. One. Good one. I like that one. 

[00:35:24] Mike: I think it has to do with well, there's a lot of things that are involved in it. If your mm-hmm, put it into a bowl. I mean, there would be a lot of different things, but sure. One of the things for sure is mean, it starts yet when we're young mm-hmm we all have different stories and I think Nicole's episode, it's a good example of how she talked about her dad's relationship with alcohol and the normalization of it at. Such a young age mm-hmm that the, the opposite would be because she expressed if I correct me if I'm wrong, but she did have a, somewhat of a relationship with her dad. He was there for her in a sense as opposed to 

[00:35:59] Tracey: yeah. Her mom was the drinker right. Dad was not. 

[00:36:03] Mike: Okay. So that, that's what it was. But if you look at a scenario where well, my example is I come from a single, my mom raised me and my sister from since four years old, my sister was less than a year. So, when you don't have all these, at that age as a, she was 28, 29 raising two kids trying to work and all these things that are involved in not only trying to show love but trying to teach and guide and rely on the school system and all these there's so many different.

[00:36:31] Mike: Things involved in this, that, how do we teach kids to be themselves, as you said, there's gotta be other things that have to be taught and more so now than ever. We're relying on, technology over the last two years with, what's gone on in the world that I mean, look at the problems that we're having with these kids. I mean, it just, that's where it starts. Mm-hmm when they can't identify some things at a young age, I mean like, shit, what am I gonna do? I'm gonna do drugs. I mean, drugs are fentanyl is just, I mean, that's a whole other topic, but it's just outta control at such a young age. Let's add in alcohol. Let's add in other things too. 

[00:37:10] Tracey: I think to be honest with you, and I'm sure Kelly can speak to this too. I think our generation Mike is doing a lot better job than the previous generation and our parents did in really allowing kids to be themselves. 

[00:37:24] Kelly: Yes. 

[00:37:25] Tracey: But I think a huge part of the problem is social media and all the technology. Isn't, that's where the problem is now because social media and technology is telling our kids, they have to stand up to a certain image that's portrayed on their well, 

[00:37:42] Mike: even adults, even adults, right? 

[00:37:44] Tracey: Yeah. That's the big downfall. I think, I think as parents, we learned from our parents and the mistakes they made. So, we've tried to be a lot more accepting and really nurture our kids, being who they are and encouraging that something that we lacked growing up. But unfortunately, I think that yes, social media especially plays a big role in what kids think that they're supposed to be and influences them in a whole different way 

[00:38:13] Mike: and bullying. I mean, like I look bullying existed when we went to school, we all may have received some, been a part of it, whatever you wanna call it. But more so now than ever, I think kids have taken their lives, you know, more I think, oh yeah, you hear about it from, you hear about stories of the young 15-year-old girl, beautiful, attractive, and had a, some sort of eating disorder and, you know, took her life.

[00:38:42] Mike: She didn't feel pretty or whatever you want to call it. Right. The young boy who's bullied. By other boys and the, the parents and look, and it's not let me preface and saying, it's not just boys that this happens to. Cause I know it happens to girls too, but the boy whose parents don't step up and say, well, you know what, your kid's bullying this kid, what are you gonna do about as a parent to stop it? Well, my kid would never do that. Well, my kid's saying this is happening and I hear through other people's my own friends who have children in high school and think, my God, if the school's not protecting these kids or who the fuck is right. And social media is just another, there are a lot of great teachers out there and this is a knock against teachers, cuz I know there are a lot, but I don't know. It starts somewhere. It's gotta start somewhere as adults, not just parents, not just teachers, but adults in general, right. 

[00:39:30] Tracey: It's scary. All the stuff that can be put online too, like the online bullying and the fact that everything can be basically, recorded or shown or whatever.

[00:39:41] Kelly: There's so much online bullying with adults. It's disgusting. 

[00:39:45] Tracey: My daughter had a girl, had an altercation with a girl on recess at school, and some other kid in the school was recording it and it went throughout the whole school. That's how easy it is. It just happened. That's crazy. And that kid got suspended for recording it. So thankfully that happened, but that video still exists, like right. Least out there forever. Probably two months after it happened, somebody was throwing it around Snapchat. Mm-hmm so it's scary to think that these things exist, and they don't go away. It's not like bullying in our day where it was just like on the playground or whatever and done, right? Yeah. There's record of all this stuff. 

[00:40:29] Mike: Well, I think on our day it was more, well, there was violence. Yeah. Violence, right? I mean, I have a young guy that works for me and he's 21. And, and he even said, I've never seen a fist fight. He goes, I've seen fights with knives.

[00:40:43] Mike: And I was like, 

[00:40:45] Lindsey: oh my God. Well 

[00:40:45] Kelly: that happens in Winnipeg. 

[00:40:47] Mike: there's violence only happens everywhere. Right? It's more, there is violence now, but like when two guys had a problem at school, it was like, okay, well we're fighting, and they would fight, and it'd be done. Yeah. 

[00:40:57] Kelly: Get the parking lot after school. And everybody would gather around.

[00:41:01] Lindsey: Everyone would gather around. Yeah. So 

[00:41:03] Mike: it's the, I don't know if you know this eighties movie, it's one of my favorites. I love eighties movies, but it's called three o'clock high. Oh. Where this perceived goon comes to school and the nerdy newspaper reporter kid they say, well, we should do a feature on this new student. And he runs into him, and he accidentally says, Hey. And he puts his hand in the shoulder and he looks at it and. We're fighting and it's at three o'clock we're fighting at the school. 

[00:41:32] Kelly: Yeah. That was the culture in the eighties. 

[00:41:34] Lindsey: That's right. It was,

[00:41:35] Mike: if you haven't seen it and you're into eighties movies, I'm telling you it's super highlight. I thought it was great. 

[00:41:40] Kelly: Okay. Can I share one more thing? Sure. Sorry. About the episode that stuck out. I think it was Lindsay's story, something that stuck with me. When you talked about Lindsay coming home on Christmas Eve, I think mm-hmm and your sisters had to help you inside. And you said why didn't anybody say anything to me?

[00:41:57] Kelly: Yeah. And that really made me think about that with myself too. I remember one scenario with my sister when we were in our twenties, and she got mad at me. We were at the bar together, or we were at the bar at the same time. And she was like, you're sloppy. And I felt really ashamed because I had dissed, she's my little sister. Yeah. But I was like, yeah, why didn't anybody say anything to me? And shortly after we started our podcast, somebody that I used to work with reached out to me. She had seen what I'd been sharing, whatever. And we were friends while we worked together, but we haven't worked together for years and years. And We got on zoom. She lives in a different province. We got on zoom and the purpose of the call was about the podcast. Somebody in her family is struggling with alcohol and she struggles with her own issues, not alcohol. Anyway, she told me a story about being in Paris with me. And I was an absolute shit show when I was on vacations. Right. And this one night in Paris, I got so drunk. And we, there was three couples that were hanging out together. We were one of them and I don't even remember this, but we had called a cab and the cab wouldn't even take us because of me. 

[00:43:10] Lindsey: You were wasted. Yeah. 

[00:43:11] Kelly: Yeah. And she said to me that she looked at me. At one point during the night, she looked at me and she goes, oh, Kelly, doesn't drink for fun. And then later on in the night she said, I didn't know Kelly was that sad. And I was like, I was the life of the party, so knowing that somebody thought that I guess we weren't close enough for her to take me aside to say anything, but that was a real, that was a big moment for me from this podcast was hearing that from her. Wow. Like there were people that were watching and thinking what a shit show is. 

[00:43:41] Lindsey: Well, I'm sure my sisters and my mom, like my mom. And I would be like, Jesus guys, I would have two bottles of wine at Christmas Eve and I'd have to be carried out at my, we're at a house, like at my mom's house, what is happening, but it's not like, the next day or two days later or something, we would just laugh it off.

[00:44:02] Lindsey: Like no one would be like Linds you know? You kind of got a little crazy, like it was a lot, you were, I was so humiliated that if anybody were to bring it up to me, I would just like, it didn't happen, but I, I would probably die. It's almost like I just ignored it. Like it didn't happen.

[00:44:20] Kelly: Mm-hmm. 

[00:44:21] Lindsey: Yeah. Well, it happens next year. I would always, 

[00:44:23] Kelly: yeah, I would wake up all the time and say to my ex-husband, I would say like, oh my God, did I do anything stupid? Did I say anything? And I always did. Yeah. And he would just protect me and be like, no, no, you're fine. You're fine. So, I wonder what it would've been like if I was married to somebody that was like, you're our fucking disaster. Like your shit together, woman. Yeah. So anyway, yeah, that really stood out for me. That was a big moment hearing that from her. 

[00:44:47] Lindsey: Wow. 

[00:44:48] Kelly: Mm-hmm 

[00:44:49] Tracey: well, Lindsay too, with how badly you suffered with the anxiety, which was really impactful. When we did our anxiety episode, I think a lot of what you had to share would definitely be really helpful to anybody who has suffered with anxiety.

[00:45:05] Lindsey: I was super embarrassed about it at the time? And it's like, I had no idea what was going on or how to, how to help myself. And I was navigating it on my own. It's really hard. It was really hard. I was really an introvert and didn't wanna go out and do things because of it, I didn't, yeah. I think that's why to this day, I really like to be, I like alone time and I like spending time by myself. I'm not somebody that's like, oh, it's we have to stay home for six months now. I'm like, yay. I don't need to be around people all the time, but I think I've learned to be that way or something. I don't know. 

[00:45:42] Kelly: Mm-hmm 

[00:45:43] Tracey: yeah, possibly for sure. 

[00:45:44] Lindsey: Mm-hmm

[00:45:45] Lindsey: I'm excited. What's in store for next season though. 

[00:45:48] Kelly: Mm-hmm we've already got some good guests lined up. Know we wanna hear from yeah. Over the summertime, like send us messages listeners and tell us what you wanna hear more about and you know what you wanna, you wanna be a guest. Yeah. Yeah. We love having guests. 

[00:46:02] Tracey: I think what we could do is tell the listeners that mm-hmm if they send us maybe some questions, we'll do a bonus episode.

[00:46:11] Kelly: That's a good idea. Yeah. 

[00:46:14] Tracey: Like our category. Type of episode but this would be for our listeners specifically ask us questions. What do you wanna know? And then we'll do a bonus episode answering those questions. 

[00:46:28] Tracey: So, although this is the wrap up, I'd like to say this won't be the end of us. You're gonna see us on social media, building up our content. During the off season, we will have a couple tricks up our slate for you. Maybe a couple blooper reels, 

[00:46:44] Kelly: bloopers 

[00:46:47] Tracey: so, there's you have to stay tuned. I do think we should talk about, the fact that we did start to rebrand, and we're very excited about that. And that's why you've seen some changes on our social media. And there'll be a few more next seasons, just cuz we will be doing some updates to our album cover and our albums for season two, to go along with our new branding. And yeah. So, our real focus during the off season will be to provide our listeners and you guys out there with some great content. 

[00:47:22] Lindsey: Yeah.

[00:47:22] Kelly: And for Mike to golf more yeah, 

[00:47:27] Mike: I dunno. 

[00:47:28] Tracey: We might talk Mike into doing some recordings that will post on his behalf. He might have some homework he's not gonna, 

[00:47:35] Kelly: what do you mean recordings? 

[00:47:38] Tracey: He can record stuff on his phone, and we can put it on social media. Oh, he could like that. 

[00:47:44] Tracey: He could do a reel, 

[00:47:46] Kelly: some reels, some reels I made my first reel.

[00:47:49] Lindsey: It was beautiful. Thanks. 

[00:47:53] Mike: I like Lindsay. Don't like Lindsay's mom. I don't know. And I like it that way. I'm not, 

[00:47:59] Kelly: you know how to make a recording on your phone and send it too yeah. 

[00:48:02] Mike: But what would I be recording? 

[00:48:04] Lindsey: sit in your red veer chair and give us a piece in your mind for two minutes. Yeah, it is. 

[00:48:13] Mike: It's like a macrame almost 

[00:48:16] Lindsey: it's oh, it's oh, macrame, right? Yeah. 

[00:48:18] Mike: I don't know. 

[00:48:19] Kelly: It's retro. 

[00:48:20] Lindsey: It's super retro for sure. 

[00:48:23] Mike: I'm telling you from like 1969, I bought, 

[00:48:25] Kelly: I know, I feel like we had that chair. Scott, 

[00:48:29] Mike: you know what Kelly, my child 

[00:48:31] Lindsey: does it swivel. I think my grandma had it. Yeah. Does it swivel? Yes, we did have that F 

[00:48:38] Mike: they're big, big money in the mid-century modern world. That's all I know. Yeah. I be a really good deal on this one. 

[00:48:44] Kelly: So very cool. 

[00:48:45] Tracey: It will be exciting. What's coming. 

[00:48:47] Kelly: It has been really good. I've loved it. It's been so awesome. Such a cool part of my life. I feel like I've got all these cool little things going on in my life, and this is definitely one of my favorite things. 

[00:49:01] Tracey: It's been absolutely amazing for me. It's been such an amazing creative outlet.

[00:49:06] Kelly: Yes. 

[00:49:07] Tracey: It's been mind blowing how supportive the communities been. As Lindsay was saying, definitely freeing being vulnerable. 

[00:49:15] Kelly: Mm-hmm 

[00:49:15] Tracey: any kind of concerns I had previously about being judged, kind of gets thrown out the window.

[00:49:22] Kelly: To superpower. Vulnerability is a superpower. 

[00:49:25] Lindsey: Yes, that is. 

[00:49:27] Lindsey: I love that, Mike, 

[00:49:30] Kelly: what is that? I mean, 

[00:49:32] Lindsey: he's holding up his middle fingers. 

[00:49:34] Kelly: What does that mean though? Like to the people that think, 

[00:49:37] Mike: yeah, it means, fuck you. Fuck them. Fuck all the bitch in your brain. 

[00:49:43] Kelly: Fuck it. All the haters. Yeah. Haters. 

[00:49:46] Tracey: Hey, at the end of the day, we know what we're doing here. We're trying to help. 

[00:49:51] Lindsey: Yes. We're trying to serve people, help people. 

[00:49:54] Kelly: That's right. 

[00:49:55] Tracey: To find something negative and bad in that. 

[00:49:57] Lindsey: And they will, they will, there's gonna be people who are gonna be like, this is crap, or you suck. 

[00:50:03] Lindsey: Okay. Cool. All right. Yeah.

[00:50:05] Kelly: All right. Okay. I think people have been doing that about me for a long time. I know I'm okay. But, 

[00:50:13] Tracey: there's always gonna be someone out there that doesn't like you, right? Regardless. 

[00:50:16] Kelly: Yeah, that's right. No, doesn't it do matter. No, 

[00:50:20] Lindsey: it's not for them. It's not for them. Those aren't those aren't our people. We are here to support, our people, people who are getting value from this people in the same boat, people. Affected by substance abuse and alcoholism. 

[00:50:36] Kelly: Mm. 

[00:50:36] Mike: If you need some dating advice, you're specialized dating. 

[00:50:39] Kelly: And it always, we always end up talking about dating. 

[00:50:42] Lindsey: Always end up talking about dating. If you need a laugh, 

[00:50:45] Mike: talk about dating 

[00:50:46] Kelly: that's right. You talked about it tonight. Did we record that? That's the other thing, are we gonna start recording when we're actually get on this zoom? Because I feel like there's a lot of juice that happens. 

[00:50:58] Lindsey: say a lot of crap before we actually hit record. Well, 

[00:51:01] Tracey: well, well end up with a lot more blooper reels that way.

[00:51:05] Lindsey: It's funny.

[00:51:05] Kelly: A lot more bloopers. Yeah, 

[00:51:06] Tracey: but we got, we got a couple to throw it there. Yeah. For our listeners.

[00:51:11] Kelly: But that's up to you, Tracey. If we're gonna start recording when we get on here, because I know that's more editing, but I feel like we talk about some pretty good stuff. we can. We're pretty funny.

[00:51:24] Kelly: What 

[00:51:25] Mike: hit record? Why are we not hit record? 

[00:51:27] Lindsey: Oh, my

[00:51:28] Kelly: single that's

[00:51:29] Tracey: blooper. 

[00:51:30] Kelly: Is that what? 

[00:51:33] Mike: That's the episode? That's 

[00:51:33] Kelly: what it's called. Hit record. Hit record, record. 

[00:51:36] Lindsey: That's a good episode made 

[00:51:38] Kelly: like that. It's just compilation of all of the things we talk about before we actually start our episode. 

[00:51:43] Lindsey: Somebody write this shit down. That is a good idea. That episode could be called hit record and it's hit it's all of our pre like our spiel, our talking just our shenanigans before we're like, okay here we go.

[00:51:56] Kelly: Yeah. Wait, I gotta go make another tea. Wait, I have to go to the bathroom. I to eat. Wait. Yeah. 

[00:52:02] Lindsey: Oh, that's my dog. I blow my nose. 

[00:52:04] Kelly: I gotta let my dog in my dog in. 

[00:52:08] Tracey: We need, we need a cut on. This is the life laugh, life laugh, life laugh 

[00:52:14] Kelly: podcast. 

[00:52:14] Lindsey: That's a good bop 

[00:52:15] Kelly: for I'm like the, what? I dunno the name of our own podcast.

[00:52:19] Lindsey: Everyone was just like, yeah. I was like, whoa. 

[00:52:22] Kelly: And I recorded our first episode without my microphone plugged in. You did? Yeah. Yeah, we did. We've learned a lot come a long way. 

[00:52:30] Lindsey: Yeah. Come a long way. Come a long way. Yeah.

[00:52:34] Tracey: All right guys. Well, in saying that, okay. I think this may be a wrap 

[00:52:41] Lindsey: on season one 

[00:52:42] Tracey: of season 1 

[00:52:43] Kelly: 21 episodes.

[00:52:45] Tracey: So much fun. 

[00:52:46] Kelly: Amazing. 

[00:52:46] Kelly: Yep. Wow. 

[00:52:49] Tracey: Thank you guys. Thanks for all your work. 

[00:52:51] Kelly: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 

[00:52:53] Lindsey: Thanks to our listeners. Thank you to our listeners and love you guys. We love you guys. We love our guests and our community, and you can find us where guys, where are we? Facebook, Instagram laugh, life podcast.

[00:53:07] Tracey: We might work over the summer. 

[00:53:10] Lindsey: Yeah, we'll have to work on some’s. We're gonna to make hats. We gonna have to make shirts. 

[00:53:17] Lindsey: We're 

[00:53:19] Kelly: And cut. Cut. 

[00:53:23] Tracey: No until next time, 

[00:53:26] Kelly: keep laughing. Keep laughing.

[00:53:29] Closing

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